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The winner is NOAA - for global sea surface temperature

SouSou
edited January 4 in Climate and Weather
This is from a new article at HotWhopper:

There's a  new paper out that shows that, contrary to what you'll read on denier blogs, NOAA's latest version of global sea surface temperature is probably the best and most accurate around. It's the closest to observations, when you compare it to measurements from moored and floating buoys, Argo floats and radiometer-based satellite records of sea surface temperature.

You might remember how climate hoax conspiracy theorists, professional disinformers and other deniers protested loud and long when NOAA scientists published a paper about the revised NOAA temperature data. The US House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, led by arch denier Lamar Smith, harassed NOAA endlessly with subpoena after subpoena. A lot of the changes to the NOAA temperature record were a result of a new version of the global sea surface temperature data set, known as Extended Reconstructed Sea Surface Temperature, or ERSST v4. The papers on that were published in February 2015 (see below). The protests only came, though, in June 2015 when there was a paper by Karl et al. That paper pushed denier buttons because it challenged the so-called "hiatus". You can read about Karl15 here, and the paper itself is here.

And a chart, showing how ERSST v4 is closest to the measurements from buoys and satellites:


You can read the full article here - with lots of references. (It's got terrific publicity already, and the paper's only just out.) The paper is in Science Advances and is open access. It's well worth a read.

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  • SouSou
    edited January 5
    Well, Anthony Watts has come out with a "batshit crazy" protest at the Hausfather paper. 

    The paper was completed in March 2016. Anthony is complaining that they didn't include data to December 2016. Heck, December data isn't even out yet, and how could they include observational data for the future (at the time) from March to December? (Remember, Anthony's as yet unpublished "paper" had data that stopped in 2008, leaving out seven years of data when he presented his poster at AGU in 2015. Think people in glass houses and all that.)

    Anthony clearly didn't even look at the pictures in the paper (open access though it was), let alone read it.

    Deniers are nuts. You'd have thought they'd take a break from utter nuttery after electing a bunch of deniers in the USA. If anything, they've ramped it up a notch (not to be confused with the notch that accompanies Force X).

    Here's the longer version of my response - as a blog article:
    GriffPG_Antioch
  • Sou said:

    Deniers are nuts. You'd have thought they'd take a break from utter nuttery after electing a bunch of deniers in the USA. If anything, they've ramped it up a notch (not to be confused with the notch that accompanies Force X).
    I think part of it is that they feel vindicated now, and that gives them extra energy and motivation to keep shouting. Being able to claim 'see, I was right all along!' and pointing at the next US president is something that's probably lifted their spirits quite a bit. They certainly seem to be very enthusiastic about using their newfound power and influence to tighten the noose even more firmly around the world's collective neck.

    Heck, if anything I expect them to become more nutty in the months to come, as they try to figure out how much further they can push in the changing political scene.
    PG_AntiochSou
  • edited January 13
    Notice they don't talk about what's happening in California or the Southeast, or "nuisance" flooding and the rest of it.

    Which brings me to the question:  Why is there still no blog dedicated to tracking and tabulating extreme weather events?  Seems to me the thing would be getting tens of thousands of visits.

    HotMap, looks like someone's great idea that got set up, but 2011 is the last up date - and it was all about explaining the situation and I guess a site map.  It's good, but doesn't follow, record and or tabulate actual events.  Hotmap looks like it's a great template - something could be built around it fairly easily (seems to me).

    It boggles my mind that nothing like that exists.
    If it does please let me know.
    and why are they so hard to find?
    PG_Antioch
  • I do not know about a blog, but the WMO publishes a yearly report on the weather in the past year with many extremes and there the yearly state of the climate published in BAMS.

    Every type of extreme has its experts. Likely not many feel confident blogging about all of them.
    PG_Antioch
  • Yeah, those are cool and I do go to them a lot.  But I'm thinking something proactive, "this is what we are doing to ourselves"..., "here are the observation based trends"..., categorized, searchable.  
    A lot like that climate HOTMAP, it's really sad that project seemed to die.  

    Guess you heard about Trump Administration's first action - removing the White House Website - climate page and leaving it blank.
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